I've been thinking about investing in one or two of these tools.
If I have my info straight so far, and the most current prices / contact information I can find:PACO KELLY'S ACU'RZR
the paco accurizer tool requires you to "whack it " on a hard surface with a mallet.
PO Box 1170
Cortaro, AZ 85652http://www.gunblast.com/Paco2.htmhttp://www.accurateshooter.com/gear-reviews/paco-kelly%E2%80%99s-acu%E2%80%99rzr-bullet-tool/http://email@example.com
phase 4 seems to be an apples to apples comparison, 1 round at a time
THE PHASE 4 IS FOR THOSE FOLKS LIKE ME THAT HAVE A NUMBER OF 22 RIMFIRE FIREARMS... FOUR FORMING CHAMBERS .222 THRU .225 ALL RODS.$75
appears there are 3 types of bullet reforming rods - the accurizer, scorpion, and nastinose. just by looking at how each is operated, the paco seems odd that you'ld have to whack the tool / rod. seems there can be some variation depending on how differently you strike it.NEAL WALTZ DIE
Email - firstname.lastname@example.org
4105 HYATT N.W. MASSILLON, OH 44646
Phone - 1 330 837 4818
from what i found with searches, The cost of the dies is 125 plus fifteen dollars shipping. pictures here:http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239273&highlight=neal+waltz+die
It appears there are only 2 bullet shaping options. The "Eley head" and the hollowpoint. Looks like a reloading die and uses a reloading press. The waltz die seems to have the most uniform pressure results, but you'ld need a reloading press. D Rock bullet modification system
(contact information in links below)
$55.00 w/ 1 forming rod addtional rods are an extra $10.00, the tool and all 8 rods are $160.00 - (so to completely try all rods to see which works best, you can be in it for $160.00, but at least you do have 8 optional types of heads). instructions to use the D Rock http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311814http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=32854#
although not neccessary, D Rock suggests using an arbor presshttp://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PARTPG=INSRAR2&PMAKA=805-1005&PMPXNO=948887
arbor press adapter plate $30.00
$55.00 tool and 1 rod + $25.95 press, + $30.00 adapter plate = $110.95 plus S&H for 1 style rod ($160.00 + $25.95 press + $30.00 adapter plate = $215.95 plus S&H for the "complete" setup)
The D Rock tool seems to equal the waltz die if you get the arbor press and adapter plate, and even then seems complicated / time consuming putting in spacers, collets, moving the tool to the next station, etc. Is it really as complicated as it looks? It can also be used without a press, but how do you know when equal pressure is applied from round to round?
There's alot posted at RFC on each and how they shrink groups, but rarely any before and after group pictures or measurements posted. Anyone use these things, and have any befores and afters to share?
Anyone have 1 of each or 2 of 3 to compare apples to apples?
If so, does anyone have the current prices on each?
Does the cost of the dies justify buying cheaper ammo and the time spent processing a brick to just buying better ammo?